Zoë Schiffer: Totally. Yes. It was really interesting to see this playing in real time. One thing I heard from a couple of sources that are close enough to practically all these technological billionaires is that at the inauguration, they did not know that they would be positioned directly behind Trump for that photo until the photo was taken.
Jake Lahut: Yes, it’s crazy.
Zoë Schiffer: And there was a moment of panic in which they were like, oh, I don’t know. We want this to be … and then it was happening, and I think everyone was like “no, we are entering. We have no choice.”
Jake Lahut: And it’s history.
Zoë Schiffer: Exactly.
Jake Lahut: Now he lives only forever.
Zoë Schiffer: But can you only imagine, I think there were these opportunities to be like, we move away? Don’t we do it? And I’m sure they feel as if they have no other choice because in the end they want to win their companies, but they have clearly made sure that there is almost no concession that are not willing to do with the Trump administration if this means that their company comes out at the top.
Jake Lahut: Yes, it is too key to a window for these companies of this next three or five years and who will be in the main position. And they should also be aware. This is a move in the Trump playbook. If you remember the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer, when he was in the oval office and covered his face with a folder because he did not know he would be there with the entire pool of the White House, Trump and his people know this move very well. Basically I’m just a trap … they set a trap for you and you can’t go to that point. And then you literally have a visual reminder of their association with you. And this gives the Trump and Trump administration itself to be exploited to the medium and long -term.
Zoë Schiffer: Right. I mean, in the end it seems that it has not really importance for them. Perhaps they will be criticized, but people will probably still use their tools. But an even bigger thing they are getting, a bigger concession they are getting from the Trump Administration is that, for example, we have heard that Trump has recently spoken of fair use and really say, really publicly in a printing briefing in front of the nation, such as “Oh, you cannot expect these Ai Pagino companies for every single piece of content on which they are training”, in essence, trying to redefine the definition of the Fair, which are currently because of the Court. But we had the president out and saying: “I really firmly sided with the artificial intelligence companies on this, not necessarily the creators of content”, which is a great victory. I mean, this is an existential question for them if the president felt in an opposite way. And so I think they are willing to bear a lot for this.
Jake Lahut: Totally. Only too many money to do and Trump hates books too much.
Zoë Schiffer: This is our show for today. We will connect to all the stories we talked about in the notes of the show. Make sure to check the episode on Thursday of Valley incrediblywhich concerns why the subscriptions of chatbot premium have a price suddenly of about $ 200 and if they can actually live up to this clamor. Adriana Tapia has produced this episode, Amar La at Macro Sound Missate this episode, Kate Osborn is our executive producer, Condé Nast Head of Global Audio is Chris Bannon and Katie Drummond is the global publishing director of Wired.
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